UMTRR November, 2007 || Edited From Subscriber Edition
©2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting Prohibited. Trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Legal Stuff

NOTE: This archive edition covers most single car releases only. Reviews of and commentary on most Micro-Trains locomotives, most Special Editions such as the U.S. Navy Sets and the Canadian Province & Territory cars are available exclusively in the e-mail subscription edition of the UMTRR.


056 00 380, $17.20
Reporting Marks: PRR 494739.
33 Foot Two Bay Open Hopper, Rib Sides, Flat Ends, Pennsylvania Railroad.

Maintenance of Way scheme of yellow with black lettering including roadname and reporting marks in center. Simulated coal load included.
Approximate Time Period: early 1950's and through 1960's.
NOTE: This item has been sold out and discontinued.

Thinking I would have the usual trouble locating any prototype information on company service cars, I was quite pleasantly surprised to find that the real PRR 494739 is, relatively speaking, not far from UMTRR HQ! Specifically, as of December 2002 it was parked on a storage track in Hamburg, New York, near Buffalo, and is available at (I believe that this is or was near the location of the Pennsy's only surviving Decapod as well, but I think that steamer may have been moved.) The lettering is a dead on match, but the body style isn't; the most obvious difference is the vertical brake staff. A look at "Rob's Pennsy Page" tells me that the 494739 is more like one of the Pennsy's GLx classes of hoppers built in the early 1900's, probably a GLa but don't quote me on that. It's also a ballast hopper according to the caption accompanying the online photo, for what it's worth; I had the same thought and while it's nice to have a new coal load from MTL I think a gray ballast load would have been even more cool. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

Photos in the two Morning Sun Color Guides to the PRR that I have (just One and Two, no Three yet) generally confirm the MTL car copy. A photo of a rider car in Volume Two, for example, comes with the following timeline: "freight car color" for maintenance of way equipment until mid-1937, then "Battleship Gray" from then until 1953, and then "Camp Car Yellow" from that point until the end of the Pennsylvania Railroad. And beyond, of course, as the Penn Central had better things to do than repaint MOW equipment. Let me hasten to add, however, that not all Company Service equipment was completely repainted; boxcars especially were prone to have a large "S" in a rectangle stenciled on an otherwise previous standard issue paint scheme. Examples of that have been offered by several different manufacturers and prototype photos are not hard to locate. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

The usual attempt at a lookup in the Official Railway Equipment Register (ORER) results in the usual frustration when dealing with MOW equipment: Just one line in the January 1964 edition with 3594 pieces numbered 488870 to 499954 or 994654 to 999953, labeled "Miscellaneous and Work Equipment Cars (Not Used In Commercial Service)." How many other railroads didn't have a total roster of 3594 pieces of rolling stock, though? Most of them! © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

083 00 010, $14.45
Reporting Marks: UP 66775.
40 Foot Steel Drop Bottom Gondola, Union Pacific.

Oxide red with white lettering including reporting marks on left and large roadname in center. Brown trucks, wheels and couplers.
Approximate Time Period: Late 1960's (based on paint scheme) to late 1980's.
NOTE: This item has been sold out and discontinued.

Body Style Number 106 from Micro-Trains represents a Union Pacific prototype, so it's only natural that the first prototype paint scheme be the UP. To "Be Specific" (sorry), the white lettering on this car replaced the yellow lettering in 1966 per the RPI Website. I'll back up just a bit from there to the January 1964 ORER to find 1787 cars numbered 65000 to 66799 in the Union Pacific listing. The inside length of these cars was 41 feet even, inside width 9 feet 6 inches, inside height 5 feet, outside length 42 feet 9 inches and extreme height 9 feet 4 inches. The capacity was 1948 cubic feet or 100,000 pounds. Curiously, the cars are described as "U.P. Gondola, Steel, Fixed Ends" but it's the AAR Designation that gives it away. "GS" translates to "An open top car, having fixed sides and ends and drop bottom, consisting of doors hinged at center sills to dump outside of rails." (If it dumps between the rails, it's a Class "GE".) © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

In the April 1970 Register, the series was down just a bit to 1761, five years later in April 1975 there were 1617 and six years after that in April 1981 the group numbered 1084. The end of the ATP appears to be around the end of the Eighties as there are just ten cars left in the 1989 and three hangers on in 1991, none of which are the 66775. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

David Carnell points us to Page 42 of the Morning Sun Color Guide to the UP, Volume 2. The exact car as of July 1972 is presented there "a little worse for the wear with dinged up sides and some weathering". By that time there is an ACI Label as well. David reports that "the lettering is the same, including the gaps in the UP reporting mark and road numbers" and that the MTL car copy aligns with the photo caption. Meanwhile, I did a bit of checking on a sample car versus the ORER figures given and found that it is a bit small, maybe six scale inches, on each of the inside dimensions-- the thickness of the plastic in which it's molded is one explanation for this. But it's just about dead on on the outside length and extreme height. Overall this looks like a nice addition to the MTL roster and a bit of a Western United States counterbalance to the panel side hopper which was primarily (but not exclusively) utilized by Eastern roads. Given the UP's sizable roster in just one number series, this also seems to be a natural for a Runner Pack or two... but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

094 00 270, $35.60
Reporting Marks: KCS 286022.
3 Bay ACF Center Flow Covered Hopper, Long Hatches, Kansas City Southern.

Dark forest green (essentially black) with gray roof and top side plate. Red and yellow bands at bottom of sides. White and yellow lettering including reporting marks on left ("KCS" in yellow outlined in red). Red and yellow KCS Lines "heritage herald" on right.
Approximate Time Period: the present.
NOTE: This item has been sold out and discontinued.

From the moment I saw my first prototype photo of this very sharp looking "heritage scheme" covered hopper, I'd hoped that MTL would be the first to release it. Say what you want about "foobies" and "fantasy"-- the folks in Talent still have the top talent and skill to pull off a paint job as complex as this one. It is true that the American Railcar Industries prototype is not a match for the MTL body style, although both are three bay covered hoppers; but it's also true that no N Scale model of the prototype exists as of yet. I am skeptical that much of the market is terribly worried about this. In fact, it does not surprise me at all to have already heard from the UMTRR Spy Network that this release is sold out and discontinued. Meanwhile, it looks like the Pennsylvania Railroad's "Dark Green Locomotive Enamel" has a new contender for the answer to the question "How close can you get to black paint without being black paint?" © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

You need look no farther than for prototype photos, more than two entire pages of them actually. The closest match by number is the KCS 286014 as photographed in April 2007 in East St. Louis Illinois by Keith Belk. I'm not sure whether it's the camera angle or not, but the "Do Not Hammer On Car" warning appears to be accompanied by a large dent in the car side! I will note a minor quibble with the paint in that the bottom hatches, and just the hatches, not the bays, look to be gray on this car and not black. Conspicuity stripes have been added in yellow to the yellow part of the sill; this would be practically indistinguishable in N Scale. It's also interesting to note that the 286031 contains the "Do Not Hammer" warning in Spanish ("No Martilles En El Auto") as well as English. Given the KCS presence in Mexico this shouldn't be surprising; in fact the first 150 of these cars were sublet to the KCS de Mexico. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

MTL officially calls the series as "unknown" on the insert label, but the RailcarPhotos site has heritage scheme covered hoppers numbered all the way up to 286734, which leads me to speculate that the number series is at least 286001 to 286750 or thereabouts. My January 2006 ORER does not show this series at all. No kidding: the Heritage Scheme was announced in March 2007, and how's that for an ATP of "the present." According to the magazine "Progressive Railroading" the scheme will grace 1050 covered hoppers and 150 covered coil cars, complementing the scheme that will be painted on more than 100 locomotives throughout the KCS system. The scheme is an homage to the "Southern Belle" passenger train than ran on KCS from 1940 to 1969. Have a look at those diesels as well, by the way: they're gorgeous too! The line has even repainted its number 34, an FP9 museum unit, into this retro scheme. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

121 00 060, $14.55
Road Number: 992506 (will be "SOU 992506" in website listings).
Scale Test Car, Southern Railway.

Orange with black lettering including road name and road number in center. Consolidated stencil on right.
Approximate Time Period: 1970's at least.
NOTE: This item has been sold out and discontinued.

Let out a deep breath, George: There is a photo of the exact Southern 992506 on the Fallen Flags website. Oops, take that breath back in: it's in Norfolk Southern black, not where-do-I-plug-this-in orange. OK, so we know that the 992506 was Not Orange in the summer of 1998. But we do know that we have a good match for the prototype in the MTL model. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

What was orange and Southern was the sister scale test car 992507, a 1977 photo of which is in the Morning Sun Color Guide to the Southern Railway, Page 117. And it's orange right down to the couplers, but with a different lettering arrangement according to Joe Shaw who checked in with that information. Joe added that the scale test cars aren't included in the Southern Railway Equipment Diagram books, "so no help there." The 992507 was built by General Steel Casting according to the MSCG caption. I'm taking a shot at the ATP being the 1970's, particularly given the use of an ACI label on the 992507, although I think one could make a case for a longer timeframe. The Southern went into the Norfolk Southern in 1991 and any time after that, basic black could have supplanted the orange paint. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.


028 00 160, $19.15
Reporting Marks: CV 40141.
40 Foot Single Sheathed Boxcar, Single Door, Vertical Brake Wheel, Central Vermont.

Boxcar red with white lettering including roadname and reporting marks on left. CV "wet noodle" herald on door. Simulated freight load included.
Approximate Time Period: mid 1960's (1964 service date given by MTL) to early 1980's.
Previous Release (as catalog 28160): Road Number 40014, May 2002.
NOTE: This item has been sold out and discontinued.

[Note: This commentary is largely a reprint of the coverage of the May 2002 release.]

A wood boxcar in the 1960's? The 1970's? How about the 1980's? Say it isn't so! No, it is so! Although maybe not in interchange service.

There is a photo of CV 40014 in Morning Sun's Northern New England Color Guide, taken in Amherst, Massachusetts, in 1970. The early 1970's is wild enough... but there's a photo of this exact CV 40141 in "Classic Freight Cars Volume 1" by John Maywald that is dated, believe it or not, 1982! The three-quarter view of the car shows some very funky-- OK, "distinctive" ends, nothing like on this or any other N Scale model I've seen, but the overall flavor of the car is present on the MTL depiction. The car does ride on basic friction bearing trucks, but not Andrews type, more like something in a Bettendorf. And you've gotta love the inclusion of an ACI label; if you want to include it as well, put it in between the first diagonal rib and the second vertical rib, counting from the left, with the bottom of the label just above the side sill. Sorry, no consolidated stencils though. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

This car belongs to the series CV 40000 to 40197, which comes up in the 1964 ORER as "Box, Steel Frame" for 116 cars. Here are the vital statistics: inside length 40 feet 6 inches, inside height just 8 feet 6 inches, outside length 42 feet 4 inches, door opening 6 feet, capacity 90,000 pounds. An additional 14 cars were equipped with loading openings in the roof and had the AAR Designation LC instead of the usual XM. No big deal here: "LC" translates to "house car with side doors and roof hatches, may be equipped with end doors." Oops, that subseries with the hatches includes the previously released road number 40014, but not the reprint number 40141. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

By April 1970 the group of XM cars had dropped to just 37 but the number of LC cars had risen to 35. However, in the April 1981 Register, this series is missing, and yes, that was before CV 40141 was photographed. My sense is that these cars could have gone over to company service or perhaps captive service from one point on the CV to another. Either one of these scenarios would have taken them out of the ORER. The appearance of a large number of steel 50 foot exterior post boxcars on the property enabled the retirement of these cars, which were originally built in the 1920's. Rich Roberg noted that some of these cars live on off-line as storage sheds, sometimes with some of their markings intact. Speaking of which, remember that the CV "wet noodle" herald debuted in the early 1960's along with parent Canadian National's similar CN logo, so that would be the start of the ATP for this car in any case. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

075 00 060, $23.40
Reporting Marks: USLX 242.
50 Foot Steel Box Car, Double Plug Door, No Roofwalk, Canfor (Canadian Forest Products).

Red, white, blue and yellow with multicolor lettering including "Red Cedar Shingles and Shakes" on left, and a selection of stars, Canfor name and logo on right.
Approximate Time Period: late 1960's through 1970's.
Previous Release (as catalog 75060): Road Number 474, July 2001.
NOTE: This item has been sold out and discontinued.

Looking at this colorful reprint I can't help but wonder if, had the prototype car been decorated like this today, whether it would have been done with "shrinkwrap" rather than paint. It's certainly been done for passenger trains, busses and even subway cars, so the issue of door openings has at least been somewhat overcome. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

What hasn't been overcome is the relative lack of ORER data for this series. The December 1970 Register shows the largish group USLX 50 to 549, which has been cut back to 110 to 549 by the April 1976 ORER. They are technically insulated boxcars, or more specifically "Box, Insulated, Bulkheads, Side Wall Fillers, 14' Double Plug Doors, 8' Main Door, Center Line Offset 12 inches Right of Center" with AAR Classification RBL, which in their eyes makes these refrigerator cars. The key dimensions from the April 1970 book: inside length 50 feet 1 inch, inside height 9 feet 10 inches, outside length 57 feet 11 inches, extreme height 14 feet 11 inches, capacity 4627 cubic feet or 154,000 pounds. There were 425 cars in the group then, but by April 1981 the series has no quantity attached to it. The owner and lessor had flipped from United States Railway Leasing Company to United States Railway Equipment Company to Evans Railcar Leasing during that time period, and eventually the USLX cars were part of the massive General Electric lease fleet. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

The book Classic Freight Cars Volume 9 includes a photo of this "Red Cedar" version of the Canfor scheme on USLX 476, and the caption gives a build date of December 1968. That doesn't mean that the car was decorated this way at the outset; with leased cars, it's hard to pinpoint a time period in which the lettering depicted existed on the prototype. The relative distance between this road number, 242, and the previous release, 474, to me indicates that the Canfor group was not consecutively numbered. Confirmation of that is also found in CFC Volume 9 in the form of USLX 243, the next number, painted up for something called "Quinault Pacific," and the USLX 244 on Fallen Flags also decorated for that operation. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

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Nn3 SCALE (NARROW GAUGE): No releases this month.


500 00 431 and 500 00 432, $22.05 each.
40 Foot Boxcar, Single Door, Chicago Great Western.

Red oxide with yellow lettering including reporting marks on left and large "C" on right. Small red, black and white "Lucky Strike" herald on left.
Reporting Marks: CGW 5356 (the 431) and CGW 5396 (the 432).
Approximate Time Period: late 1950's to mid 1960's as painted, see text.
NOTE: This item (both numbers) has been sold out and discontinued.

[Note: The below is largely a "reprint" from the April 2006 commentary on the N Scale release (which was just one number, the 5356).]

The 5356 appears on Page 34 of the Morning Sun Color Guide (MSCG) to the Chicago Great Western by Gene Green. "The large 'C' on the right stands for Compartmentizer," Green reported, adding that there were just 15 cars out of the 600 in this particular group of PS-1s. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

The ORER for January 1955 shows the series 5001 to 5600 labeled no more specifically than "Box". The 15 exception cars are classified XME versus XM for the main series. (By the way, do not fault MTL for putting "XM" on the car instead of "XME" or even "XL". It's wrong on the prototype too!) The inside length of these cars was 40 feet 6 inches, inside height 10 feet 6 inches, outside length 40 feet 8 inches, extreme height 14 feet 11 inches, door opening 6 feet, and capacity 3903 cubic feet or 100,000 pounds. As you can guess, we're interested in the 15 exceptions rather than the 583 in the main series. Note D explained the Compartmentizers and the road numbers of the cars that had them, ready? The fifteen road numbers given were 5037, 5059, 5119, 5139, 5249, 5268, 5271, 5289, 5314, 5396, 5404, 5455, 5516, 5547, and 5569. What do you mean, there's no 5356? © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

Well, we're OK. The January 1959 ORER shows the 5356 in its list of fifteen cars. It looks like there were "swap-outs"; the list in that volume was as follows: 5059, 5095, 5119, 5139, 5216, 5268, 5271, 5289, 5314, 5356, 5396, 5404, 5455, 5523 and 5560. I'll leave the figuring of the deltas between the lists to the reader. In January 1964, the 5356 and 5396 were still among eleven cars that still carried the Compartmentizers. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

Which brings me to the point that said Compartmentizers didn't last all that long; they were removed beginning in 1963 but one of them kept the "C" until after 1968. Green notes that the 5356 and the 5268 were the last two cars of the fifteen to be in service with the extra equipment, so the mid-1960's end of the ATP is my best guess given the data I found. Perhaps validating this is a second photo on Page 38 of the MSCG with two cars from the same subset of fifteen, one of which, CGW 5289 to be exact, has the reporting marks without the lines above and below and also set lower on the car. That photo is dated August 1965. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

In the Chicago and North Western listing within April 1970's ORER, there was still quite the healthy complement of CGW cars including 492 cars in the main series 5001 to 5600, plus another 70 that were denoted as having Evans DF Loaders and an adjustment in the inside width from that equipment. No "C"s though. There was a simplified scheme painted on the overall fleet of CGW PS-1's before the 1968 merger into the C&NW, according to the MSCG. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

531 00 071 and 531 00 072, $17.85 each.
PS-2 Covered Hopper, Santa Fe (AT&SF).

Gray with black lettering including reporting marks on left. Black and white "circle cross" herald inside black square on left.
Reporting Marks: ATSF 82515 (the 071) and ATSF 82526 (the 072).
Approximate Time Period: 1957 (build date) to early 1970's.
NOTE: This item (both road numbers) has been sold out and discontinued.

The Morning Sun Color Guide to the ATSF does note that starting in 1959, certain covered hoppers were being painted gray, unlike the oxide red Santa Fe PS-2 cars that debuted the popular body style in Z Scale. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

Also unlike the first run, these cars represent prototypes from American Car and Foundry, which clearly wouldn't be Pullman Standard PS-2's! That's clearly seen in a comparison between the ATSF 82297, a Santa Fe class Ga-105 PS-1 in oxide red on Page 85 of the MSCG, and the ATSF 82697, a Santa Fe class Ga-110 in gray also on Page 85. Both cars are 2006 cubic feet in capacity but there are at least two spotting differences: nine side ribs including one in the center on the AC&F car and eight side ribs with a gap in the center of the PS-2, and the lack of a roof overhang on the AC&F car that is seen on the PS-2. AC&F had been building two bay covered hoppers for quite a while, in fact the Santa Fe got ten 34 footers in 1936-- but these are later versions that much more closely resemble the Pullman-Standard offering. I seem to dimly recall that this particular AC&F model was called a "PS-2 Clone" but I can't find the reference to that term being used for two bay covered hoppers, only three bay versions. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

Anyway, the ORER for January 1959 shows the series 82500 to 82899 of all 400 possible cars with an inside length of 29 feet 3 inches, inside width of 9 feet 5 inches, outside length of 35 feet 3 inches, and extreme height of 13 feet 4 inches. That last dimension given is the only one cited here in which the real PS-2's differ as they are 2 inches shorter. (That would be 0.009 actual inch in Z Scale.) © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

In January 1970 there were just eight fewer cars in the series than built. The original 400 had dropped to 207 by the October 1991 ORER, and... We don't need to concern ourselves with roofwalk removal on a covered hopper-- how would one get to the hatches?-- but certainly changes like ACI labels and consolidated stencils would have occurred, if not the entire paint scheme. Then again, here's another surprise from Fallen Flags: ATSF 82876 from the same series is painted, not in gray, but in the "original" oxide red, as of 1977. Well, the MSCG did say that it was only certain covered hoppers that were painted gray! © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

982 01 031 and 982 01 032, $175.95 each
Road Numbers: 1203 and 1212 (will be preceded by "NH" in website listings).
GP-9 Diesel Locomotives, New Haven.

Black long and short hoods and underframe, red cab and handrails (including stanchions). White lettering including roadname and road number on cab. Red and white McGuiness herald (red "N" over white "H") on long hood. White numberboards.
Approximate Time Period: 1956 (build year) to early 1980's.
NOTE: The 032 number of this item has been sold out and discontinued.

First used on locomotives, the bold "McGuiness" scheme was introduced in 1954 and lasted until and after the force-feeding of the New Haven into the Wreck of the Penn Central in 1969. The thirty NH GP-9s were also classed DERS-4, numbered from 1200 to 1229 and equipped with steam boilers for passenger service. An example of the latter circa 1967 can be found on the website of the New Haven Railroad and Technical Association, some eleven years after being built in July and August 1956. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

All twenty of the GP-9s were transferred to Penn Central, where they became numbers 7530 to 7559 and then 7270 to 7299. They appeared in the Conrail roster under the latter set of numbers although there's some question on the "Conrail Cyclopedia" website as to whether all thirty were actually in operation for Consolidated Rail. Some of these Geeps were rebuilt to GP11's at the Illinois Central Paducah Shops, and worked on shortlines and regionals and for leasing companies. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

There are photos of several of these Geeps on Fallen Flags, including a shot from 1959 of the 1203 in one of the railroad's namesake cities, New Haven, Connecticut-- in glorious black and white. The 1220 was caught in Buzzard's Bay, Massachusetts in color in August 1963. Roof details do appear to differ between the prototype and model, but an important one of these, namely, the dynamic brakes, does align. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

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New Release:
855 00 021, $29.60
30 Foot Flat Car, Composite Frame, White Pass and Yukon.

Brown with yellow lettering including road number (only) on right. Note that neither reporting marks nor any other marking indicating WP&Y ownership appear on this car.
Approximate Time Period: 1940's to 1960's.
Note: MTL has stated that a second road number will be available in December.

Oh, great, what can a reviewer say when the railroad in question not only doesn't appear in the Official Railway Equipment Register, since it's not a common carrier, but doesn't even bother to put reporting marks on its cars? I mean, other than MTL says a second road number is coming next month? © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

Well, how about this fun fact from the book "American Narrow Gauge Railroads": the Alaska segment of the line was originally named the Pacific and Arctic Railway and Navigation Company, incorporated in West Virginia, but was under the holding company White Pass and Yukon Railway which was organized in London? The British Columbia and Yukon Territory segments were each longer than the portion in Alaska, but were a bit less auspiciously named. The three foot line ascended 2885 feet in 21 miles from Skagway, Alaska; that's an average grade of 2.8 percent. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

It was most likely World War II that brought these flat cars over to the White Pass & Yukon. As we've already noted in these bytes, steam locomotives from the Colorado and Southern were brought in so it's not a stretch to throw in some flat cars, or perhaps stock cars not yet cut down as MTL hints in its car copy. The ATP into the 1960's is based on the containerization that the line did, which amounted to ninety percent of its traffic as of 1969. Not much need for older general service wood decked flat cars at that point. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.

There are some interesting photos "Along the White Pass Line" in 1950 and 1951 on the website along with a set of online references to the WP&Y. That includes a link to its current owner, and also to the site of Boerries Burkhardt which contains modern photos of its vintage equipment. Among those photos are some of flat cars, but none in the 700's number series. © 2007 George J. Irwin. All rights reserved. Reposting prohibited.